{"id":3966,"date":"2017-05-01T21:46:22","date_gmt":"2017-05-01T21:46:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/?p=3966"},"modified":"2019-11-22T00:03:12","modified_gmt":"2019-11-22T00:03:12","slug":"aint-no-witch-caroline-dye-hoodoo-blues","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/aint-no-witch-caroline-dye-hoodoo-blues\/","title":{"rendered":"Ain&#8217;t No Witch: Caroline Dye, Hoodoo and the Blues"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hoodoo. Conjure-work. We&#8217;re going to the roots of root-work today, with music, material and musings . My writing flowed this way from an interest in Cunning Folk, both European and African, plus the pleasure of early blues. I also have a love of <strong>Manly Wade Wellman&#8217;s <\/strong>character John the Balladeer, though that part only came to mind afterwards, when I was looking up early sourcebooks related to hoodoo <em>(more below)<\/em>. The <strong>Memphis Jug Band<\/strong> was the real start for me, decades ago, with their &#8220;Aunt Caroline Dye (Dyer) Blues&#8221;, and it spread from there\u2026<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve written about the Northern European tradition of Cunning Folk before. The hedge-wizards, wise women and more, often &#8211; though not always &#8211; Christians, who could be called upon for protection against curses, hexes and blights. Whilst Wicca, historical witchcraft, and voodoo or vodun, are fascinating in themselves, the real roots that interest me in the US are those of hoodoo.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\"><em>&#8220;Because sometimes I&#8217;m waitin&#8217; at the crossroads, but I does it how I choose,\u201d said Mamma Lucy. \u201cI ain\u2019t one of your mamalois, voodoo girls or Sant-eria ladies, liftin\u2019 their skirts when you come callin\u2019, neither.&#8221;<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><span style=\"color: #003300;\"><em>jlg<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m only a writer, exploring strange places. But you might find what follows interesting. Historically, as with many of the old Cunning Folk, the guiding principle for most hoodoo was belief in God and the Bible. Where Caribbean and New Orleans spiritual movements blended Catholic saints with African belief systems, a lot of hoodoo folk were Protestant in one form or another. <span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>Voodoo and hoodoo get confused, but they ain&#8217;t the same.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3972\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3972\" style=\"width: 275px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Sixthandseventhbooks_frontpiece_1880.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"3972\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/aint-no-witch-caroline-dye-hoodoo-blues\/sixthandseventhbooks_frontpiece_1880\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Sixthandseventhbooks_frontpiece_1880.png?fit=411%2C566&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"411,566\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Sixthandseventhbooks_frontpiece_1880\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;1880 frontispiece&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Sixthandseventhbooks_frontpiece_1880.png?fit=218%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Sixthandseventhbooks_frontpiece_1880.png?fit=411%2C566&amp;ssl=1\" class=\" wp-image-3972\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Sixthandseventhbooks_frontpiece_1880.png?resize=275%2C378\" alt=\"1880 frontispiece\" width=\"275\" height=\"378\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Sixthandseventhbooks_frontpiece_1880.png?resize=218%2C300&amp;ssl=1 218w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Sixthandseventhbooks_frontpiece_1880.png?w=411&amp;ssl=1 411w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3972\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">1880 frontispiece<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>You might call hoodoo a dominant blend of African beliefs, with threads of European herb and symbolic lore pulled in as well. Much conjure-work links back to Ewe and Fon lore from West Africa. The lines got blurred, as people from different tribes and cultures were enslaved and forced together. They sought systems which might sustain at least a fraction of their origins and identity, including shared reference points. With time, some of these developed into beliefs and oral traditions which echoed the lost past but also reflected life in the States.<\/p>\n<p>If this was a predominantly black road, it didn&#8217;t automatically exclude whites, because it slowly drew in folklore from European immigrants, especially Germanic ones. It came from the big slave plantations, but as the 19th century progressed, it spread into communities through freedmen and women, and had value for many poor and disenfranchised people. It absorbed elements of Native American herbalism, and became its own thing. Hoodoo. Root-work is another name, from the use of medicinal or magical roots and herbs.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3940\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3940\" style=\"width: 208px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/Hurston-Zora-Neale-LOC.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"3940\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/appropriate-conscience-writing-black-characters\/hurston-zora-neale-loc\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/Hurston-Zora-Neale-LOC.jpg?fit=408%2C588&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"408,588\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Hurston-Zora-Neale-LOC\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;zora neale thurston&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/Hurston-Zora-Neale-LOC.jpg?fit=208%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/Hurston-Zora-Neale-LOC.jpg?fit=408%2C588&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"wp-image-3940 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/Hurston-Zora-Neale-LOC.jpg?resize=208%2C300\" alt=\"zora neale hurston\" width=\"208\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/Hurston-Zora-Neale-LOC.jpg?resize=208%2C300&amp;ssl=1 208w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/Hurston-Zora-Neale-LOC.jpg?w=408&amp;ssl=1 408w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 208px) 100vw, 208px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3940\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">zora neale hurston<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><em>(<strong>Zora Neale Hurston<\/strong>, who we mentioned briefly last week, wrote a study of Afro-American folklore, including discussion of hoodoo, root work and conjuration in her 1935 collection of tales, <\/em>Mules and Men<em>.)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>One written crossover example is <em>The Sixth and Seventh Books of Moses<\/em>, a magical text allegedly written by Moses, passed down as hidden portions of the Old Testament. A grimoire, a text of magical incantations and seals, the text circulated in Germany from at least the 1700s, passed through immigrants such as the Pennsylvania Dutch, and entered both white general folklore and black Christian hoodoo.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/John-the-Balladeer.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"3973\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/aint-no-witch-caroline-dye-hoodoo-blues\/john-the-balladeer\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/John-the-Balladeer.jpg?fit=808%2C1333&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"808,1333\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"John-the-Balladeer\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/John-the-Balladeer.jpg?fit=182%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/John-the-Balladeer.jpg?fit=474%2C782&amp;ssl=1\" class=\" wp-image-3973 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/John-the-Balladeer.jpg?resize=263%2C434\" alt=\"John-the-Balladeer\" width=\"263\" height=\"434\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/John-the-Balladeer.jpg?resize=182%2C300&amp;ssl=1 182w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/John-the-Balladeer.jpg?resize=768%2C1267&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/John-the-Balladeer.jpg?resize=621%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 621w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/John-the-Balladeer.jpg?w=808&amp;ssl=1 808w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 263px) 100vw, 263px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The direct Manly Wade Wellman link slipped in to my mind when I came across mention of <em>Pow-wows, or The Long Lost Friend<\/em> whilst researching conjure-work. This book crops up in a number of Wellman&#8217;s stories. This is another genuine &#8216;grimoire&#8217; from the 1820s, by one <strong>Johann Georg Hohman<\/strong>, and was originally called <em>Der Lange Verborgene Freund<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><em>\u201cBind,\u201d he said to someone over me. \u201cBind, bind. Unless you can count the stars, or the drops in the ocean, be bound.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>It was a spell-saying. \u201cFrom the Long Lost Friend?\u201d I asked.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><em>Wellman, &#8216;Vandy Vandy&#8217;, (1953)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The <em>Long Lost Friend<\/em> is a collection of spells, charms and remedies for everyday use. Like the <em>Books of Moses<\/em>, it initially entered hoodoo through the Pennsylvanian Dutch and other groups of Germanic origin.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/41ehxPuLH0L._SL500_SY344_BO1204203200_.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"3976\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/aint-no-witch-caroline-dye-hoodoo-blues\/41ehxpulh0l-_sl500_sy344_bo1204203200_\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/41ehxPuLH0L._SL500_SY344_BO1204203200_.jpg?fit=257%2C346&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"257,346\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"41ehxPuLH0L._SL500_SY344_BO1,204,203,200_\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/41ehxPuLH0L._SL500_SY344_BO1204203200_.jpg?fit=223%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/41ehxPuLH0L._SL500_SY344_BO1204203200_.jpg?fit=257%2C346&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-3976 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/41ehxPuLH0L._SL500_SY344_BO1204203200_.jpg?resize=223%2C300\" alt=\"41ehxPuLH0L._SL500_SY344_BO1,204,203,200_\" width=\"223\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/41ehxPuLH0L._SL500_SY344_BO1204203200_.jpg?resize=223%2C300&amp;ssl=1 223w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/41ehxPuLH0L._SL500_SY344_BO1204203200_.jpg?w=257&amp;ssl=1 257w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 223px) 100vw, 223px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>It crossed relatively easily into hoodoo because it also puts Christianity in the driving seat and emphasis belief in the Bible as core. &#8216;Pow-wows&#8217; was added to later editions, in reference to real or supposed Native American practices.<\/p>\n<p><em>\u201cThe book has remained quite popular among practitioners of Hoodoo\u2026 James Foster noted that many shops in Harlem and Brooklyn stocked The Long Lost Friend in 1957.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><em>Daniel Harms, The Long Lost Friend: A 19<sup>th<\/sup> Century American Grimoire (2012)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>So, I was travelling 1920s Harlem in my mind a year or two ago, learning, and expanding my <em>Tales of the Last Edwardian<\/em>, when I saw someone passing through, one of the Cunning Folk who might resonate in her own time and place.<\/p>\n<p>She was old like me, black like I&#8217;m not, and a foil to the industrialised, post-Edwardian scientific approach. Bare feet in the earth, and silver dimes around her ankles. A worn print dress on a strong, gangly frame. She used her brains more than she used out-and-out conjure-work, but she knew what she was doing if she had to lay a trick or turn a jinx.<\/p>\n<p>I also knew that she held no truck with oppressive wealth and monstrous laws, that she was plain ornery, her heart with the voiceless.<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;She&#8217; turned out to be Mamma Lucy.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/mammalucy1.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"3971\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/aint-no-witch-caroline-dye-hoodoo-blues\/mammalucy1\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/mammalucy1.jpg?fit=948%2C720&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"948,720\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;DSC-W55&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;6.3&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;100&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.003125&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"mammalucy1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/mammalucy1.jpg?fit=300%2C228&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/mammalucy1.jpg?fit=474%2C360&amp;ssl=1\" class=\" wp-image-3971 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/mammalucy1.jpg?resize=429%2C326\" alt=\"mammalucy1\" width=\"429\" height=\"326\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/mammalucy1.jpg?resize=300%2C228&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/mammalucy1.jpg?resize=768%2C583&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/mammalucy1.jpg?w=948&amp;ssl=1 948w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 429px) 100vw, 429px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\">Caroline Dye: A Mighty Fine Vision<\/h1>\n<p>If you write about hoodoo from around the early 20<sup>th<\/sup> Century, you can&#8217;t avoid the blues &#8211; which is a good excuse to mention some tracks here. You also can&#8217;t avoid <strong>Aunt Caroline Dye<\/strong> (not Dyer- the track at the start was named through an error or pronunciation or transcription).<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/1082480.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"3968\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/aint-no-witch-caroline-dye-hoodoo-blues\/attachment\/1082480\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/1082480.jpg?fit=310%2C739&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"310,739\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"1082480\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/1082480.jpg?fit=126%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/1082480.jpg?fit=310%2C739&amp;ssl=1\" class=\" wp-image-3968 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/1082480.jpg?resize=216%2C514\" alt=\"1082480\" width=\"216\" height=\"514\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/1082480.jpg?resize=126%2C300&amp;ssl=1 126w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/1082480.jpg?w=310&amp;ssl=1 310w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 216px) 100vw, 216px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Despite her association with hoodoo, Caroline Dye was a psychic, a fortune-teller &#8211; there&#8217;s less evidence of her performing the slower root-work, laying tricks or setting up actual spells. And typically, there were more claims made for her and her skills than she made for herself. People went to her for readings, and they went in their thousands, hopefuls looking for answers.<\/p>\n<p>She was born to enslaved parents in Jackson County, Arkansas \u2013 or in Spartanburg, South Carolina. There are different versions, both of her origins and her death. The earliest suggestion of her birth is 1810, which seems unlikely, and the more accepted one is in the 1840s. As Caroline Tracy, a name which seems to have come from her family&#8217;s original owners (a phrase which should never have had to be typed), she married Martin Dye of Sulphur Rock, some time after the American Civil War.<\/p>\n<p>Called \u201cone of the most celebrated women ever to live in the Midsouth\u201d, she is said to have died September 26th, 1918 (which would have made her 108 years old \u2013 or, more likely, in her seventies). She was buried in Jackson County.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3977\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3977\" style=\"width: 264px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/45489151_131343698598.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"3977\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/aint-no-witch-caroline-dye-hoodoo-blues\/45489151_131343698598\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/45489151_131343698598.jpg?fit=976%2C1110&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"976,1110\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;7.1&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;DSC-W55&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1291470601&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;6.3&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;100&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.004&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"45489151_131343698598\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;caroline dye&#8217;s grave, from findagrave.com&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/45489151_131343698598.jpg?fit=264%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/45489151_131343698598.jpg?fit=474%2C539&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-3977\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/45489151_131343698598.jpg?resize=264%2C300\" alt=\"caroline dye death\" width=\"264\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/45489151_131343698598.jpg?resize=264%2C300&amp;ssl=1 264w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/45489151_131343698598.jpg?resize=768%2C873&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/45489151_131343698598.jpg?resize=900%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 900w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/45489151_131343698598.jpg?w=976&amp;ssl=1 976w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 264px) 100vw, 264px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3977\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">caroline dye&#8217;s grave, from findagrave.com<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Caroline Dye was supposed to have the &#8216;second sight&#8217; even when she was young, but became famous for being a seer after the Dyes set up home in Newport, Arkansas, around 1900.<\/p>\n<p>Despite the dates above, others such as <strong>catherine yronwode<\/strong> of <a href=\"http:\/\/luckymojo.com\">luckymojo.com<\/a> have compiled evidence that suggests Caroline Dye may have been around longer. One of the problems is that there are mentions of her in music which suggest she was alive in 1930, when <strong>Will Shade<\/strong> and the Memphis Jug Band recorded their song about her. This details Dye\u2019s hometown as Newport News, in Virginia, but the song\u2019s music and a verse was lifted from the band\u2019s 1927 song <em>Newport News Blues<\/em>, so that was probably just convenient (or locally popular).<\/p>\n<p>Some have spoken as if she was around until 1936-37. This may have been the general remembrance of a notable figure. It may even have been complicated by the tendency for famous &#8216;names&#8217; in fortune-telling and hoodoo to be adopted by later practitioners. So there may have been a second &#8216;Caroline Dye&#8217;, no relation but using her reputation.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/6816085_orig.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"3969\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/aint-no-witch-caroline-dye-hoodoo-blues\/6816085_orig\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/6816085_orig.jpg?fit=779%2C800&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"779,800\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"6816085_orig\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/6816085_orig.jpg?fit=292%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/6816085_orig.jpg?fit=474%2C487&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-3969 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/6816085_orig.jpg?resize=292%2C300\" alt=\"6816085_orig\" width=\"292\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/6816085_orig.jpg?resize=292%2C300&amp;ssl=1 292w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/6816085_orig.jpg?resize=768%2C789&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/6816085_orig.jpg?w=779&amp;ssl=1 779w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 292px) 100vw, 292px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\">Aunt Caroline and the Blues<\/h1>\n<p>Dye was \u201cthe gypsy\u201d in the 1914 song \u201cThe St. Louis Blues,\u201d according to <strong>W.C. Handy<\/strong>, who wrote it. He later names her directly, in his 1923 song \u201cSundown Blues.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><em>For I&#8217;m going to Newport<\/em><br \/>\n<em> I mean Newport Arkansaw<\/em><br \/>\n<em> I&#8217;m going there to see Aunt Car&#8217;line Dye<\/em><br \/>\n<em> Why she&#8217;s a reader<\/em><br \/>\n<em> And I need her<\/em><br \/>\n<em> Law!<\/em> Law! Law! She reads your fortune, and her cards don&#8217;t lie.<br \/>\n<em> I&#8217;ll put some ashes in my sweet Papa&#8217;s bed,<\/em><br \/>\n<em> So he can&#8217;t slip out, Hoodoo in his bread<\/em><\/p>\n<p>In 1937,<strong> Johnny\/Johnnie Temple<\/strong> named her again in his &#8220;Hoodoo Woman&#8221; song:<\/p>\n<p><em>Well, I&#8217;m going to Newport,<\/em><br \/>\n<em> just to see Aunt Caroline Dye<\/em><br \/>\n<em> Well, I&#8217;m going to Newport,<\/em><br \/>\n<em> just to see Aunt Caroline Dye<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>She&#8217;s a fortune teller, hooo, Lord,<\/em><br \/>\n<em> she sure don&#8217;t tell no lie<\/em><br \/>\n<em> And she told my fortune,<\/em><br \/>\n<em> as I walked through her door<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>And she told my fortune,<\/em><br \/>\n<em> as I walked through her door<\/em><br \/>\n<em> Said, &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry for you, buddy, hooo, Lord,<\/em><br \/>\n<em> the woman don&#8217;t want you no more&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Aunt Caroline Dye also crops up in \u201cWang Dang Doodle,\u201d (1960) by <strong>Howlin\u2019 Wolf<\/strong> and <em>Koko Taylor<\/em>. This is a curious song about rowdy merry-making. It borrows from black oral history, including lesbian nicknames of earlier times. The original reference to Fast Talkin&#8217; Fannie, for example, used a word other than Talkin&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p><em>Tell Peg and Caroline Dye \/ We gonna have a time&#8230;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Dye would read futures and make predictions. Her most commonly quoted method was using cards, as in Handy&#8217;s lyrics. It&#8217;s said that she wouldn&#8217;t help in romantic matters, though, and told people that they should sort their own love lives out. She did offer to find lost people, lost cattle and other items through reading her deck, or through her visions.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cGoing to go see Aunt Caroline Dye\u201d became a common saying among black people of the time, and as she grew famous, she became respected by many whites as well. She reportedly died a landowner with substantial fortune.<\/p>\n<p>In the 1960s, Will Shade spoke of her having wider powers. He said of her:<\/p>\n<p><em>\u201cWhite and Colored would go to her. You sick in bed, she raise the sick. Conjure, Hoodoo, that&#8217;s what some people say, but that&#8217;s what some people call it, conjure.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><em>Interview by Paul Oliver, Conversation with the Blues<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>\u201cSeven Sisters ain&#8217;t nowhere wit&#8217; Aunt Caroline Dye; she was the onliest one could break the record with the hoodoo.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><em>ibid<\/em><\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\">A Mojo Number<\/h1>\n<p>The Seven Sisters were supposed hoodoo women in 1920&#8217;s New Orleans. As usual, controversy surrounds their nature. Some say they were genuine sisters, others that they were just seven black women working together, and it&#8217;s even been claimed that they were one woman in different guises. The name also crosses concepts of seventh sons and seventh daughters being special. As with Caroline Dye, they were well known for their psychic abilities or clairvoyance.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Seven Sisters Blues\" width=\"474\" height=\"267\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Xof9NrOlarg?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><em>They tell me Seven Sisters in New Orleans that can really fix a man up right<\/em><br \/>\n<em> They tell me Seven Sisters in New Orleans that can really fix a man up right<\/em><br \/>\n<em> And I&#8217;m headed for New Orleans, Louisiana, I&#8217;m travelin&#8217; both day and night.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>I hear them say the oldest Sister look just like she&#8217;s 21<\/em><br \/>\n<em> I hear them say the oldest Sister look just like she&#8217;s 21<\/em><br \/>\n<em> And said she can look right in your eyes and tell you just exactly what you want done.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>They tell me they&#8217;ve been hung, been bled, and been crucified<\/em><br \/>\n<em> They tell me they&#8217;ve been hung, been bled, and been crucified<\/em><br \/>\n<em> But I just want enough help to stand on the water and rule the tide.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>It&#8217;s bound to be Seven Sisters, &#8217;cause I&#8217;ve heard it by everybody else<\/em><br \/>\n<em> It&#8217;s bound to be Seven Sisters, I&#8217;ve heard it by everybody else<\/em><br \/>\n<em> Course, I&#8217;d love to take their word, but I&#8217;d rather go and see for myself.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>When I leave the Seven Sisters, I&#8217;ll pile stones all around<\/em><br \/>\n<em> When I leave the Seven Sisters, I&#8217;ll pile stones all around<\/em><br \/>\n<em> And go to my baby and tell her, &#8220;There&#8217;s another Seven Sister man in town.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Good morning, Seven Sisters, just thought I&#8217;d come down and see<\/em><br \/>\n<em> Good morning, Seven Sisters, I thought I&#8217;d come down to see<\/em><br \/>\n<em> Will you build me up where I&#8217;m torn down, and make me strong where I&#8217;m weak?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Number Seven has its own significance in hoodoo work, as have the other odd numbers.<\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\">Conjuration<\/h1>\n<p>As to hoodoo itself, apart from mid-century and later commentaries, it&#8217;s interesting to read earlier writers. One source is <strong>Charles Waddell Chesnutt<\/strong> (1858 \u2013 1932), an African-American author, essayist and activist. Chesnutt was born in Ohio, his parents being &#8220;free persons of color&#8221; from North Carolina.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Charles_W_Chesnutt_40.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"3970\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/aint-no-witch-caroline-dye-hoodoo-blues\/charles_w_chesnutt_40\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Charles_W_Chesnutt_40.jpg?fit=317%2C441&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"317,441\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Charles_W_Chesnutt_40\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Charles_W_Chesnutt_40.jpg?fit=216%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Charles_W_Chesnutt_40.jpg?fit=317%2C441&amp;ssl=1\" class=\" wp-image-3970 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Charles_W_Chesnutt_40.jpg?resize=262%2C364\" alt=\"Charles_W_Chesnutt_40\" width=\"262\" height=\"364\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Charles_W_Chesnutt_40.jpg?resize=216%2C300&amp;ssl=1 216w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/greydogtales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Charles_W_Chesnutt_40.jpg?w=317&amp;ssl=1 317w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 262px) 100vw, 262px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>His position was odd \u2013 Chesnutt was legally white in some States, black in others. In a shameful time of Jim Crow laws in America, many state had a &#8216;one drop&#8217; rule, which meant that even if you had only a single grandparent or great-grandparent who was black, you could be discriminated against. North Carolina adopted &#8216;one drop&#8217; legislation in 1923.<\/p>\n<p>Chesnutt&#8217;s paternal grandfather was known to be a white slaveholder, and he would have had other white ancestors. Despite his outward appearance, he identified as African American, and apparently never chose to be known as white.<\/p>\n<p>Here are a couple of passages from his essay <em>Superstitions &amp; Folklore of the South<\/em>:<\/p>\n<p><em>Conjuration<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>The origin of this curious superstition itself is perhaps more easily traceable. It probably grew, in the first place, out of African fetichism (sic), which was brought over from the dark continent along with the dark people. Certain features, too, suggest a distant affinity with Voodooism, or snake worship, a cult which seems to have been indigenous to tropical America. These beliefs, which in the place of their origin had all the sanctions of religion and social custom, become, in the shadow of the white man&#8217;s civilization, a pale reflection of their former selves. In time, too, they were mingled and confused with the witchcraft and ghost lore of the white man, and the tricks and delusions of the Indian conjurer.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>The only professional conjure doctor whom I met was old Uncle Jim Davis, with whom I arranged a personal interview. He came to see me one evening, but almost immediately upon his arrival a minister called. The powers of light prevailed over those of darkness, and Jim was dismissed until a later time, with a commission to prepare for me a conjure &#8220;hand&#8221; or good luck charm, of which, he informed some of the children about the house, who were much interested in the proceedings, I was very much in need. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>I subsequently secured the charm, for which, considering its potency, the small sum of silver it cost me was no extravagant outlay. It is a very small bag of roots and herbs, and, if used according to directions, is guaranteed to insure me good luck and &#8220;keep me from losing my job.&#8221; The directions require it to be wet with spirits nine mornings in succession, to be carried on the person, in a pocket on the right hand side, care being taken that it does not come in contact with any tobacco.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><em>Modern Culture, volume 13, 1901<\/em><\/p>\n<p>His collection The Conjure Woman (1899) is available on-line, and also includes the full essay.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gutenberg.org\/ebooks\/11666\">http:\/\/www.gutenberg.org\/ebooks\/11666<\/a><\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\">Passing Fictions<\/h1>\n<p>Finally, there is one problem with writing fiction about hoodoo. It&#8217;s difficult to get right, and yet sometimes difficult to get wrong. People did make up &#8216;spells&#8217; to suit them. And there are so many variants &#8211; styles of traditional conjure-work can be personal to a practitioner, or peculiar to a geographical area. The terminology varies across the States, and some branches came from passed-down pamphlets, others through family word of mouth. I always try to use versions of recognised conjure-work where I can, preferably form direct folk sources.<\/p>\n<p>But it&#8217;s always interesting, anyway.<\/p>\n<p>So Mamma Lucy is around in a number of my stories \u2013 <em>&#8216;Hoodoo Man&#8217;<\/em>; <em>&#8216;Iron and Anthracite<\/em>&#8216;, <em>&#8216;Whiskey, Beans and Dust&#8217;<\/em>, and <em>&#8216;The Witch of Pender&#8217;,<\/em> plus a few others.\u00a0 I hope she trusts me well enough to keep spinnin&#8217; them tales&#8230;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><em><strong>Thank you for listening. Do feel free to comment with thoughts and\/or corrections. Back later in the week with something weird&#8230;<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hoodoo. Conjure-work. We&#8217;re going to the roots of root-work today, with music, material and musings . My writing flowed this way from an interest in Cunning Folk, both European and African, plus the pleasure of early blues. 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